Is there anything you miss about having an illegal kitchen?
I miss the intimacy of it. It was like, we can fit 10 people comfortably, and 35-40 uncomfortably. We got to know every person. There was no line cook, no sous chef, just us and them. We made connections with friends and new friends. It's very nostalgic for me. The new group of friends we met, they were all these graduates from Carnegie Mellon, and there were all these alumni with them. They helped us to explode the most. I'm still friends with all those guys. The fun part was every time they brought someone new, it was like story time. We were sitting around the campfire, and I was that guy who had the verbal history of Starry Kitchen. It was really fun, and that's why book is really fun for me too. I'm happy to share. We tried to resurrect it after we started our restaurant, but it's not the same. Things that happened in our life were meant to take place at that point in time. We needed to make money, we were in the mentality of reinvention, and to go back to it—it's kind of like, oh yeah, we've got our real restaurant, and it's kind of cool, but when we got that apartment 5 years ago, I was overcome with emotion. I've been humiliated and humbled so many times, I'm just an emotional wreck now.